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Rear brake pedal travels too far

Do not rideAlso called: rear brake pedal low, pedal goes to the floor, have to press the rear brake hard and far

Rear drum brake parts diagram with rod and adjuster
Rear drum brake parts diagram with rod and adjuster
Drum brake adjuster and anchor bolt at the rear wheel
Drum brake adjuster and anchor bolt at the rear wheel
Single leading shoe drum brake: look at shoe wear and cam
Single leading shoe drum brake: look at shoe wear and cam
Drum brake diagram naming brake arm, panel and cam
Drum brake diagram naming brake arm, panel and cam
Twin leading shoe drum brake layout
Twin leading shoe drum brake layout

You have to push the rear brake pedal a long way down before the brake works, or it reaches the footpeg or its stop. On a drum brake this is usually adjustment or worn shoes. On a hydraulic (disc) rear brake it suggests air, a low fluid level, a worn master cylinder, or the pedal and pushrod set wrongly.

Is it safe to ride?

No, until the pedal works within its normal travel. This is usually a quick fix.

Quick checks first

  • Measure the free play at the pedal pad (K-Light 125: 20 to 30 mm).
  • Drum brake: look at the wear indicator pointer.
  • Hydraulic brake: check the rear reservoir (and CBS reservoir) level.
  • Has the chain or rear wheel just been adjusted?

Diagnose it step by step

1Is the rear brake a drum (rod or cable) or a disc (hydraulic)?

  • Drum: go to step 2.
  • Disc: go to step 4.

2Drum: does turning the adjuster in bring the free play back to the manual value?

  • Yes: Adjust a drum brake. Check the brake light after adjusting.
  • No, the adjuster is at its end: go to step 3.

3Is the wear pointer past its mark, or the brake arm past a right angle when applied?

  • Yes: worn shoes or drum. Service a drum brake.
  • No: the cam or arm may have been refitted on the wrong spline. Check during the service.

4Disc: is the fluid level above LOWER in the rear (and CBS) reservoir?

5Is the pedal free play too large because the pushrod or stop bolt is set wrong?

  • Yes: Adjust the rear brake pedal. On the K-Light 125, the pushrod should leave 0 to 0.2 mm gap at the piston and the pedal free play should be 20 to 30 mm.
  • No: go to step 6.

6Does the pedal feel soft, or sink when held?

7Is the pedal bent, or its pivot worn so it moves sideways?

Causes, most likely first

Cause How to confirm Fix
Drum brake needs adjustment Large free play; adjuster has thread left Adjust a drum brake
Worn drum shoes Pointer past mark Service a drum brake
Pedal or pushrod set wrong Free play outside manual range Adjust the rear brake pedal
Air or low fluid (disc) Soft pedal; low reservoir Replace brake fluid and bleed the brakes
Worn master cylinder or CBS leak Pedal sinks when held Check the brake master cylinder

Reference values (K-Light 125)

Item Value Source
Rear pedal free play 20 to 30 mm K-Light 125 manual, PDF p. 49 and 62
Pushrod to rear master piston clearance 0 to 0.2 mm K-Light 125 manual, PDF p. 116

Related problems

Sources
  • K-Light 125 manual, PDF pages 49, 62, 116
  • MAVCC Motorcycle Mechanic, PDF page 544

Values marked K-Light 125 are for that reference bike. Use your own bike's manual for its values. Text CC BY-SA 4.0, Transitions Lab.