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Gearbox and gear change

Whining noise in one or more gears

Ride with careAlso called: gear whine, transmission noise, howl in gear

Slight wear and pitting on gear teeth
Slight wear and pitting on gear teeth
Gear with broken teeth
Gear with broken teeth
Gearbox shafts with the gears in order
Gearbox shafts with the gears in order
Damaged tapered roller bearing
Damaged tapered roller bearing

A whine or howl that you hear in certain gears, which rises and falls with road speed. Gear teeth and gearbox bearings whine when they wear, pit or lack oil. But a dry or tight chain, a worn wheel bearing and engine noises can sound very similar, so the first job is to find where the noise really comes from. A faint whine has always been there on some engines; a new or growing one is the warning.

Is it safe to ride?

Ride with care. A whine alone rarely stops the bike, but if it turns into grinding, knocking or the gears feel rough, stop: a breaking gear or bearing can lock the gearbox and the rear wheel.

Quick checks first

  • Check the oil level.
  • Look at the chain: dry, rusty or too tight?
  • Note which gears whine and at what speed.

Diagnose it step by step

1On a quiet road, ride at a steady speed where you hear it. Pull the clutch and let the engine idle while you roll. Does the whine stop?

  • Yes: it comes from the engine or gearbox, which only carry load when the clutch is engaged. Go to step 2.
  • No, it continues at the same road speed with the clutch pulled: it comes from the chain, wheels or tyres. Go to step 5.

2Does the whine change when you change gear at the same road speed?

  • Yes: likely the gearbox. Go to step 3.
  • No, it follows engine revs even in neutral at standstill: it is engine noise. Go to Whining noise from the engine.

3Is the oil level correct and the oil clean?

  • No: Check the engine oil level and top up or change it. The gearbox shares the engine oil on most commuter bikes.
  • Yes: go to step 4.

4Drain or sample the oil. Is there glitter, flakes or chunks of metal?

5Is the chain dry, rusty or too tight?

6With the bike on the stand, does a wheel feel rough or rumbly when you spin it by hand, or does it have play?

Causes, most likely first

Cause How to confirm Fix
Dry or tight chain Noise stays with clutch pulled Clean and lubricate the chain
Low or old oil Level low, oil dark Check the engine oil level
Wheel bearing Rough when spun by hand Check wheel bearings
Worn gear teeth or gearbox bearing Whine in certain gears, clutch-dependent Assess internal gearbox faults
Broken, bent or debris-struck gear tooth Broken teeth are usually noisy. If nothing looks broken, look for a bent tooth or a chip of metal stuck on one Replace the damaged gear together with its mate on the other shaft: Assess internal gearbox faults

Videos that help with this problem

How it worksHow a motorcycle transmission works (Animation)TecknoMechanics · 6:08 · YouTube

Animation of a constant-mesh sequential gearbox: gears, dogs, shift drum and forks. Shows shift drum, forks and dogs, which explains false neutrals, jumping out and hard shifts.

How it worksUnderstanding Motorcycle Transmission SystemEMecha3D · 4:24 · YouTube

Constant-mesh gearbox, gear ratios and the link between torque and speed.

Videos by their creators on YouTube, chosen because they show this clearly. Values in a video are for the bike shown; use your own bike's manual.

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Sources
  • K-Light 125 manual, PDF pages 191, 226, 177
  • MAVCC Motorcycle Mechanic, PDF page 507

Values marked K-Light 125 are for that reference bike. Use your own bike's manual for its values. Text CC BY-SA 4.0, Transitions Lab.