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Grinding or screeching noise when starting

Ride with careAlso called: starter grinds, screech on start, gear noise when cranking, starter clutch noise

Starter gear with its overrunning clutch spring
Starter gear with its overrunning clutch spring
Starter gear train seen with the cover off
Starter gear train seen with the cover off
Starter motor opened to show planetary gears
Starter motor opened to show planetary gears
Overrunning clutch parts: rollers, springs and races
Overrunning clutch parts: rollers, springs and races
Starter clutch on the back of a flywheel
Starter clutch on the back of a flywheel
Starter motor yoke with field coils
Starter motor yoke with field coils

You hear grinding, crunching or a high screech when you press start, or just after the engine fires. The starter turns the engine through a set of small gears and a one-way starter clutch. Grinding means teeth are not meshing properly, or the starter clutch is slipping or not freeing itself. The timing of the noise is the main clue.

Is it safe to ride?

Yes, carefully, if the engine runs normally and the noise stops at once. If the noise continues while the engine runs, or the starter keeps turning, stop the engine with the key and go to Starter keeps turning after I let go of the button.

Quick checks first

  • Does the noise come while cranking, or only after the engine fires?
  • Does it stop the moment you release the button?
  • Are the starter mounting bolts tight?
  • Is the battery fully charged?

Diagnose it step by step

1Does the noise continue after you release the button, while the engine runs?

  • Yes: the starter is still being driven or is not disengaging. Switch off with the key. Go to step 5.
  • No: go to step 2.

2Is the noise a short screech or bang just as the engine fires, sometimes with a kick?

3Are the starter mounting bolts tight and is the starter fully seated?

  • No: tighten to your manual's value. K-Light 125: starter mounting bolts 10 to 12 N·m. A loose starter lets its gear jump teeth.
  • Yes: go to step 4.

4Remove the starter. Are its gear teeth chipped, rounded or worn on one side?

5Does the starter keep spinning with the button released?

What happens if you ignore it: broken gear teeth can fall into the engine and cause much bigger damage.

Causes, most likely first

Cause How to confirm Fix
Loose starter motor Bolts loose; starter moves by hand Tighten to the manual value
Worn starter clutch Slips then grabs; screech on start Check the starter clutch
Damaged starter or idle gear teeth Chipped teeth when starter is removed Remove and inspect the starter motor
Engine kicking back at start Bang or kick as it fires Check the ignition timing
Starter not disengaging Noise continues after release Test the starter relay

Reference values (K-Light 125)

Item Value PDF page
Starter motor mounting bolts 10 to 12 N·m 92

Related problems

Sources
  • K-Light 125 manual, PDF pages 92, 237
  • MAVCC Motorcycle Mechanic, PDF page 601

Values marked K-Light 125 are for that reference bike. Use your own bike's manual for its values. Text CC BY-SA 4.0, Transitions Lab.